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Cloudcent · 20th Century Boy Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 1192

I haven't even tried Children of Mana yet, but did get it with a giftcard. I'm waiting on a friend to come down tomorrow so we can multiplay that shit. For some reason...i can never play a mana game by myself. They are only fun with friends. I hope this one delivers!

Cloudcent · 20th Century Boy Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 1192

Double Post. I win.

So I finally got around to starting Children of Mana, and while I like it, I wouldn't like it if it didn't have the following things:

Mana universe(most important)
Co-op play.

The game is completely average in every conceivable way. And while I did have fun with it, I couldn't force myself to play it on my own. It'll be one of those games that pops in when a certain friend comes to hang out(couple times a month).

This series seriously hasn't aged well, and now it's pretty much confirmed that Dawn of Mana is going to suck? Ehh.. They should seriously just clone Secret of Mana. I'd be all for it, just change the locations. The one city hub setting just doesn't do it for me.

Hopefully Heroes of Mana ends up good, as it looks like it will be at this point.

NR · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 12:01 am Post subject:

http://www.rpgfan.com/news/2007/1003.html

Owozifa · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 2:12 am Post subject:

Hmmmmm Well as I understand it the members of the series that use robots from anime series have trouble because of all the licensing issues, so I'm thinking we're not going to see it over here.
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savory snax · Posted: Tue Jan 09, 2007 3:53 pm Post subject:

Damn shame. That last GBA Super Robot War was pretty hawt
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LiQuid! · fasta dan a muddafucka! Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 9318

So I've been trying to play Yggdra Union again and I have some questions since it's starting to annoy me.

1. Does the game stay as linear as it is right now? I'm only on the fourth or fifth fight and am still getting tutorial shiat, so I might not be into the actual meat of the game yet, but does the game follow a rigid story>fight>save>story>fight>save structure? I'm starting to really hate linear TRPG's and much prefer when I have the ability to dick around and level up my characters.

2. Anyone else feel the one attack per turn limit is kind of gay? Even with formations so you can have other characters join the attack, it still seems pretty retarded.

3. Is there any type of character customization at all? Doesn't look like there's going to be any from what I see now.

So far the first few fights have not sold me on the game. Compound on that the fact that I keep dying or fuckeng up and using all my cards while trying to level up Yggdra in these two fights I'm on, and can't save between (where you save the knight dude), and I'm getting pretty annoyed and would rather spend my time playing Mazes of Fate. Anyone have some encouraging words for me?
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LiQuid! · fasta dan a muddafucka! Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 9318

And because the CADST needs more loving lately, have a helping of Revenant Wings stuff. This game's looking pretty hot so far. Multiple esper summons is a good thing. Hopefully they aren't completely useless in this game. Having just capped off FFXII, I really can't wait to get balls deep in this one.
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VsPluckyDuck · Duckslit Joined: 19 Jan 2006 Posts: 1268

LiQuid! · fasta dan a muddafucka! Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 9318

Yeah you were right, I didn't find anything in that post encouraging and I'm probably going to stop playing it. Much like Riviera it sounds like they're trying too much new stuff at the expense of the game being fun.

The couple times I ran out of turns/died it was because I wasn't properly anticipating the amount of turns I was going to need to finish part of the battle, and/or losing too much morale trying to gain EXP when I didn't know that the second part of the battle carried your morale over. I've since gone back and beaten it with very little problem.

All in all the linearity of the game paired with the fact that it's so unconventional is what kills it for me. I ran into the same problem with the Fire Emblem and Front Mission games where it's just story>battle>save ad nauseum and I can't handle TRPG's like that. I need my TRPG's to be more open like FFT/Tactics Ogre or the NIS games. I need to be able to dick around. I especially hate having to look for "suspicious map areas" especially on a game with such rigid limits on the amount of stuff you can do on any one turn. This game's getting a pass from me and I'm gonna go ahead and say it's one of the most overrated RPG's of the year. Off to try to Super Robot games I guess.

Edit: actually speaking of the Super Robot games, why in samfuck did Atlus translate the title as "Super Robot Taisen" instead of Super Robot Wars? I don't understand partial translations of games. I might skip that series too just based on principle alone.
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Idin Leis · McCoy fucked me so hard Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 4627

LiQuid! · fasta dan a muddafucka! Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 9318

I think you're wrong about that.
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LiQuid! · fasta dan a muddafucka! Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 9318

Ouch. Just played the first two battles of SRW and that's about all that series is getting out of me... Rigid, linear structure? Long, drawn-out and insipid anime dialogue? "TRPG for Dummies" gameplay? All check. Yggdra Union looks exemplary by comparison. Maybe I'll stick it out with that one for a few more battles. At the very least that one's got some originality to it.
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Idin Leis · McCoy fucked me so hard Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 4627

LiQuid! · fasta dan a muddafucka! Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 9318

They're still the same series. OG just has less licenses? Didn't we get an official SRW title over here for SNES or PSX or something anyways?

You could customize your robots in Front Mission too, but it was still a crappy game with the most basic of TRPG systems, hyperlinear progression and an uninteresting plot, which is what I got from the first few battles of SRT.
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Idin Leis · McCoy fucked me so hard Joined: 19 Oct 2005 Posts: 4627

randar23rhenn · Old school JRPG Joined: 29 Dec 2005 Posts: 2098

first i'd like to say that i absolutely loved both SRT: OG games, and that i thought especially the second one had a pretty good story

also, i love its battle system, even if it is rather standard SRPG fare... it does what it does extremely well, and that's having sweet looking robots whoop each other's asses in some really sweet animations

and completely unrelated:
http://www.gamespot.com/ds/adventure/hotelduskroom215/review.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=gssummary
this game once again proves that the DS owns... a noir mystery? count me in
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Cloudcent · 20th Century Boy Joined: 24 Oct 2005 Posts: 1192

Owozifa · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 3:43 pm Post subject:

Yeah I'm also up on that sometime soon. Phoenix Wright 2 is out and in my possession now though...and that comes first definitely. That game gives me deja vu of Deja Vu though. Whoa.
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LiQuid! · fasta dan a muddafucka! Joined: 07 Oct 2005 Posts: 9318

Games like Hotel Dusk and Phoenix Wright kind of upset me. They don't provide much in actual gameplay, so I don't find them worth the $30-35 price of admission. I actually played Trace Memory; my roommate bought it for like $15 after it went bargain bin. I thought that was a pretty good price for a game like that. You just play through it once, solve the puzzles, read through the storyline and then it's over. Like playing an interactive book. I don't understand how games like that justify their price tags, which is why I'll probably never buy them. Sucks because Hotel Dusk seems really rad. I just think my $35 is better spent on something I'll actually get some gameplay (and perhaps even some replayability) out of, like Yoshi's Island 2.
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NR · Posted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 4:44 pm Post subject:

Yeah, question about Phoenix Wright...

It seems that the general idea goes like, the other side is saying their stuff and you're like:
You: Objection!
Judge: overruled, that's not it...
Other side: blah blah blah
You: Objection!
Judge: overruled, that's not it...
Other side: blah blah blah
You: Objection!
Judge: Hmmmm, yes, sustained (You're onto something).

That seems like it would get old. Doesn't it?
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